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	<title>Comments on: Enough about the ports already</title>
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		<title>By: cajunfries</title>
		<link>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>cajunfries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-92</guid>
		<description>Although I can imagine that the UAE would be able to run our ports more efficiently than a bunch of overpaid and overfed teamsters, something so sensitive and important to the infrastructure of this country should be left to American control.  I just wonder how the Brits got hold of it in the first place and I wonder what other critical functions have been silently slipped over to foreign control. 
 
Bush reasons that it's OK to give control of the ports to the UAE because they're a "trusted ally".  Have we forgotten so quickly who else was a so-called trusted ally as late as 1989?  Surprise - it was good ol' Saddam... I think the cartoon riots demonstrate the deep gulf between Western/Christian and Muslim thought (which have interestingly disappeared from the news since the mosque bombings!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I can imagine that the UAE would be able to run our ports more efficiently than a bunch of overpaid and overfed teamsters, something so sensitive and important to the infrastructure of this country should be left to American control.  I just wonder how the Brits got hold of it in the first place and I wonder what other critical functions have been silently slipped over to foreign control. </p>
<p>Bush reasons that it&#8217;s OK to give control of the ports to the UAE because they&#8217;re a &#8220;trusted ally&#8221;.  Have we forgotten so quickly who else was a so-called trusted ally as late as 1989?  Surprise - it was good ol&#8217; Saddam&#8230; I think the cartoon riots demonstrate the deep gulf between Western/Christian and Muslim thought (which have interestingly disappeared from the news since the mosque bombings!).</p>
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		<title>By: John Hardy</title>
		<link>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-85</guid>
		<description>Thanks for a GREAT fact-based rebuttal to the hyper-sensationalism of the day. I also agree that port security still needs work, but it doesn't have much or anything to do with which internationally-recognized company is operating our ports.  I also agree that Bush may not have handled it in the best way, but Graham, Kerry, Kennedy and other Dem-libs would have found some way to rsahly politicize even his very best efforts. And that's the bottom line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a GREAT fact-based rebuttal to the hyper-sensationalism of the day. I also agree that port security still needs work, but it doesn&#8217;t have much or anything to do with which internationally-recognized company is operating our ports.  I also agree that Bush may not have handled it in the best way, but Graham, Kerry, Kennedy and other Dem-libs would have found some way to rsahly politicize even his very best efforts. And that&#8217;s the bottom line.</p>
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		<title>By: Little Miss Attila</title>
		<link>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Little Miss Attila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-84</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Ports Deal&lt;/strong&gt;

Sean basically has this one right: there aren't a lot of good solid arguments against the DPW running our ports. I'm also hearing a lot of "ick, Arabs" stuff that's pretty offensive. Remember, folks: if we turn into a nation...</description>
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<p>Sean basically has this one right: there aren&#8217;t a lot of good solid arguments against the DPW running our ports. I&#8217;m also hearing a lot of &#8220;ick, Arabs&#8221; stuff that&#8217;s pretty offensive. Remember, folks: if we turn into a nation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The American Mind</title>
		<link>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>The American Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 05:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-82</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Conservatives in Favor of the Ports Deal&lt;/strong&gt;

At On Tap Marshall Manson wants us to "stop being paranoid and start acting like Americans." There's plenty of good...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Conservatives in Favor of the Ports Deal</strong></p>
<p>At On Tap Marshall Manson wants us to &#8220;stop being paranoid and start acting like Americans.&#8221; There&#8217;s plenty of good&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cam Edwards &#187; Blog Archive &#187; My Thoughts on The Whole Ports Kerfuffle</title>
		<link>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Cam Edwards &#187; Blog Archive &#187; My Thoughts on The Whole Ports Kerfuffle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 04:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-81</guid>
		<description>[...] My first response after reading all the discussion on the ports issue over at On Tap - is what&#8217;s the big deal? Why is everyone up in arms over this? Marshall, in my opinion makes the most important point when he said (&#8217;bout halfway down the post) Your second point is, I think, the most compelling. But let’s remember a practical fact — it’s not like Dubai Ports (that’s the company) is going to send thousands of employees over here to manage the ports. The actual work will still be done by the same Americans who have been doing it for years. To be sure, there will be a few actual Arabs (gasp!) running around. But presumablky, if they’re going to be exposed to anything secret, they’d have to go through the same background check and security clearance process that everyone else does. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] My first response after reading all the discussion on the ports issue over at On Tap - is what&#8217;s the big deal? Why is everyone up in arms over this? Marshall, in my opinion makes the most important point when he said (&#8217;bout halfway down the post) Your second point is, I think, the most compelling. But let’s remember a practical fact — it’s not like Dubai Ports (that’s the company) is going to send thousands of employees over here to manage the ports. The actual work will still be done by the same Americans who have been doing it for years. To be sure, there will be a few actual Arabs (gasp!) running around. But presumablky, if they’re going to be exposed to anything secret, they’d have to go through the same background check and security clearance process that everyone else does. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Bifgroovey</title>
		<link>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>Bifgroovey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-80</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Two Different Philosophies:
1. The War on Terror is to be handled as a matter of foreign policy
2. The War on Terror is to be handled as a matter of local law enforcement&lt;/strong&gt;

The Bush Presidency will be known as the moment in time when America stopped subscribing to #2 philosophy mentioned above, and began subscribing to the #1 philosophy - that is to stop our reactive-isolationist-do-nothing foreign policy with terror committed by Islamo-fascists (see Jimmy Carter run),  and take the war to them. Democrats are seething mad since they love laying down before the enemies of America since the Russian Revolution. When liberals claim Bush is doing nothing to protect the homeland, what they really mean is that we should we should stop defeating our enemies abroad.

The Dem philosophy was clearly pointed out in the last Presidential debate when John Kerry said the threat of terrorism had been "exaggerated" by the Bush administration. Terrorism, he asserted, was "primarily an intelligence and law enforcement operation that requires cooperation around the world — the very thing this [Bush] administration is worst at." (nationally televised debate on January 29).

Which is more important? Reactively inspecting incoming containers in our ports streaming in from hostile countries? Or, could President Bush be consistently subscribing to philosophy #1 by focusing on eliminating the cargo from ever being shipped in the first place?

The Bush doctrine is that America will no longer wait to be hit. Everybody can get all twitterpated about who is running the ports if they want. And we all can agree that we do need to have security in our ports. The bigger issue, that Democrats hysterically want to reject and turn our attention away from,  is what are we doing abroad to stop problem at the ports of the middle east.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Two Different Philosophies:<br />
1. The War on Terror is to be handled as a matter of foreign policy<br />
2. The War on Terror is to be handled as a matter of local law enforcement</strong></p>
<p>The Bush Presidency will be known as the moment in time when America stopped subscribing to #2 philosophy mentioned above, and began subscribing to the #1 philosophy - that is to stop our reactive-isolationist-do-nothing foreign policy with terror committed by Islamo-fascists (see Jimmy Carter run),  and take the war to them. Democrats are seething mad since they love laying down before the enemies of America since the Russian Revolution. When liberals claim Bush is doing nothing to protect the homeland, what they really mean is that we should we should stop defeating our enemies abroad.</p>
<p>The Dem philosophy was clearly pointed out in the last Presidential debate when John Kerry said the threat of terrorism had been &#8220;exaggerated&#8221; by the Bush administration. Terrorism, he asserted, was &#8220;primarily an intelligence and law enforcement operation that requires cooperation around the world — the very thing this [Bush] administration is worst at.&#8221; (nationally televised debate on January 29).</p>
<p>Which is more important? Reactively inspecting incoming containers in our ports streaming in from hostile countries? Or, could President Bush be consistently subscribing to philosophy #1 by focusing on eliminating the cargo from ever being shipped in the first place?</p>
<p>The Bush doctrine is that America will no longer wait to be hit. Everybody can get all twitterpated about who is running the ports if they want. And we all can agree that we do need to have security in our ports. The bigger issue, that Democrats hysterically want to reject and turn our attention away from,  is what are we doing abroad to stop problem at the ports of the middle east.</p>
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		<title>By: Anomolous</title>
		<link>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>Anomolous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-79</guid>
		<description>Why might this port deal get some people's dander up?  Maybe Osama bin Laden &lt;a href="http://anomolous.eponym.com/blog/_archives/2006/2/22/1777898.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;lunching with UAE princes&lt;/a&gt; has something to do with it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why might this port deal get some people&#8217;s dander up?  Maybe Osama bin Laden <a href="http://anomolous.eponym.com/blog/_archives/2006/2/22/1777898.html" rel="nofollow">lunching with UAE princes</a> has something to do with it?</p>
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		<title>By: Cam Edwards &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Port Debate</title>
		<link>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Cam Edwards &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Port Debate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-78</guid>
		<description>[...] Is going on over at On Tap. Feel free to chime in.    &#160;&#160;&#160;Permalink [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Is going on over at On Tap. Feel free to chime in.    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Permalink [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: The Anchoress &#187; With Dubai, Dubya roils the right</title>
		<link>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>The Anchoress &#187; With Dubai, Dubya roils the right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-75</guid>
		<description>[...] On Tap Blog says, Jeez, Chill Already! Really. We ought to be ashamed of ourselves. If this is what we’ve become as a result of 9/11, the terrorists really have won. A corporation was hired to do a job — manage some ports. They have the expertise and ability to do the work. (Folks who have spent their lifetimes pushing oil around the world in tankers know a thing or two about ports, after all.) Dubai (in the UAE) is one of the great up-and-coming business centers in the world. And there’s a reason why. It’s time to stop being paranoid and start acting like Americans. You&#8217;ll want to check out the conversation as it continues. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] On Tap Blog says, Jeez, Chill Already! Really. We ought to be ashamed of ourselves. If this is what we’ve become as a result of 9/11, the terrorists really have won. A corporation was hired to do a job — manage some ports. They have the expertise and ability to do the work. (Folks who have spent their lifetimes pushing oil around the world in tankers know a thing or two about ports, after all.) Dubai (in the UAE) is one of the great up-and-coming business centers in the world. And there’s a reason why. It’s time to stop being paranoid and start acting like Americans. You&#8217;ll want to check out the conversation as it continues. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Chapman</title>
		<link>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ontapblog.com/2006/02/21/enough-about-the-ports-already/#comment-74</guid>
		<description>Will the Port Debacle wake up Congress to our biggest security flaw?

That being our virutaly unguarded Southern Border?

I’ve heard some really bizarre comparisons of the Dubai Ports World deal with the Harriet Miers nomination. It is the height of ignorance to compare the Meirs flap to this. Meirs was wholly unqualified to sit on the court, where Dubai Ports has been involved in port management for some time. Who do you think runs the ports that the 5th Fleet routinely pulls into?  

The knee-jerk reaction by so many to this deal boggles the mind. And this newfound sense of "security" at our ports is vastly overshadowed by the gaping hole that is our southern border.  So while our open borders Congress hems and haws over a port deal, it ignores the single largest security flaw that the nation faces. Alas, there is hardly any discussion by any Senator about that major problem, let alone anything close to 1/1000th of the media coverage. Hell there have been more stories on the Cheney shooting than the massive amounts of incursions by the Mexican military supported coyotes and drug runners to the south or the Arabs posing as Mexicans who are crossing the border.

While everyone seems poised to jump on this issue without doing an inkling of research into the deal, there is hope that cooler heads will prevail. The biggest mistake I continue to hear is that Dubai Ports World will take over Security for the ports, and this is fully incorrect. Coast Guard and Customs have absolute control of the ports security, as well as the Port Master who is more or less the liaison between the Port Management Company and the governmental agencies who oversee all US ports.

I'm no big Bush supporter, but this assault on this deal reeks of xenophobia. We had no problem when the Brits managed the ports operations, but now we all of the sudden can't trust anyone from the Middle East? This form of guilt by association is the hallmark of bigotry, prejudice, and ignorance.

Now if someone wants to raise valid concerns about the deal, do so and drop the emotional response. Words like “common sense” seem appropriate when looking at a deal of this magnitude, yet that same “common sense’ is wholly absent when it comes to our border policies. 

There are in my view legitimate concerns to be raised over this port deal. UAE has been a valuable ally in the War on Terror to their own detriment, but their banking ties to Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups should send up very large red flags. Still this isn’t a nail in the coffin of this deal. The turnover of many US ports to this group is troubling in the fact that it will give them layout, and logistical details of our port systems that would not normally be made public to an outside company, and this is troubling as well. 

I for one welcome a review of the deal, and I would like to see more security experts, not Congressmen, Media Pundits, and the rest of the MSM hackery’s opinions on this deal. I do not for an instant trust Congress when it comes out so quickly on a deal like this, because its obvious that no one there has had the time to review the deal or its implications. So step back, look it over, analyze and report, but don’t jump to conclusions immediately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will the Port Debacle wake up Congress to our biggest security flaw?</p>
<p>That being our virutaly unguarded Southern Border?</p>
<p>I’ve heard some really bizarre comparisons of the Dubai Ports World deal with the Harriet Miers nomination. It is the height of ignorance to compare the Meirs flap to this. Meirs was wholly unqualified to sit on the court, where Dubai Ports has been involved in port management for some time. Who do you think runs the ports that the 5th Fleet routinely pulls into?  </p>
<p>The knee-jerk reaction by so many to this deal boggles the mind. And this newfound sense of &#8220;security&#8221; at our ports is vastly overshadowed by the gaping hole that is our southern border.  So while our open borders Congress hems and haws over a port deal, it ignores the single largest security flaw that the nation faces. Alas, there is hardly any discussion by any Senator about that major problem, let alone anything close to 1/1000th of the media coverage. Hell there have been more stories on the Cheney shooting than the massive amounts of incursions by the Mexican military supported coyotes and drug runners to the south or the Arabs posing as Mexicans who are crossing the border.</p>
<p>While everyone seems poised to jump on this issue without doing an inkling of research into the deal, there is hope that cooler heads will prevail. The biggest mistake I continue to hear is that Dubai Ports World will take over Security for the ports, and this is fully incorrect. Coast Guard and Customs have absolute control of the ports security, as well as the Port Master who is more or less the liaison between the Port Management Company and the governmental agencies who oversee all US ports.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no big Bush supporter, but this assault on this deal reeks of xenophobia. We had no problem when the Brits managed the ports operations, but now we all of the sudden can&#8217;t trust anyone from the Middle East? This form of guilt by association is the hallmark of bigotry, prejudice, and ignorance.</p>
<p>Now if someone wants to raise valid concerns about the deal, do so and drop the emotional response. Words like “common sense” seem appropriate when looking at a deal of this magnitude, yet that same “common sense’ is wholly absent when it comes to our border policies. </p>
<p>There are in my view legitimate concerns to be raised over this port deal. UAE has been a valuable ally in the War on Terror to their own detriment, but their banking ties to Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups should send up very large red flags. Still this isn’t a nail in the coffin of this deal. The turnover of many US ports to this group is troubling in the fact that it will give them layout, and logistical details of our port systems that would not normally be made public to an outside company, and this is troubling as well. </p>
<p>I for one welcome a review of the deal, and I would like to see more security experts, not Congressmen, Media Pundits, and the rest of the MSM hackery’s opinions on this deal. I do not for an instant trust Congress when it comes out so quickly on a deal like this, because its obvious that no one there has had the time to review the deal or its implications. So step back, look it over, analyze and report, but don’t jump to conclusions immediately.</p>
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