Comments on: Who I Voted For In the Virginia Primary http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/ Not Looking Out For You Since 2006 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:09:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Mark J. Goluskin http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-367787 Mark J. Goluskin Sat, 16 Feb 2008 07:27:25 +0000 http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-367787 At least I had the chance to vote for Mitt Romney here in California. I think we conservatives are now engaging in Democrat-style ghettoizing politics. We are breaking up in groups when I can say I am a conservative, period. Name any given issue and I will take a conservative position. It is a total outlook on the world from real-life experiences. I do not think it does any good to break off into little ghettoes and whine. We expect that from socialist Democrats. McCain is no where near my choice because he is, dare I say it, Clintoian on his conservatism. Does not know much about econimics? He should sit down one day with Larry Kudlow. Does not do social issues? He needs to seek out some and talk about it. No, he is not a conservative. A moderate conservative at best. But, when he talks about not wanting to wear it on his sleeve, it is discouraging. I will vote for him in November because I do not sit out elections. But, he is not the kind of conservative I believe he should be. At least I had the chance to vote for Mitt Romney here in California. I think we conservatives are now engaging in Democrat-style ghettoizing politics. We are breaking up in groups when I can say I am a conservative, period. Name any given issue and I will take a conservative position. It is a total outlook on the world from real-life experiences. I do not think it does any good to break off into little ghettoes and whine. We expect that from socialist Democrats. McCain is no where near my choice because he is, dare I say it, Clintoian on his conservatism. Does not know much about econimics? He should sit down one day with Larry Kudlow. Does not do social issues? He needs to seek out some and talk about it. No, he is not a conservative. A moderate conservative at best. But, when he talks about not wanting to wear it on his sleeve, it is discouraging. I will vote for him in November because I do not sit out elections. But, he is not the kind of conservative I believe he should be.

]]> By: Zach Foreman http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-362449 Zach Foreman Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:23:16 +0000 http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-362449 Jim, I voted in Arlington today... for Hillary. I have three reasons: 1. I want the Dem primary to last as long as possible, so they run down their campaign chests and attack one another so Repubs don't have to. Obama has the momentum so if Hillary took Virginia (the most likely of the three), it would ensure a long, bloody primary. 2. I think Hillary would be better in the general election for three reasons: a. She would be easier to beat because of her high negatives and Obama changes the game (as seen by the wrong polls), b. She would have shorter coattails (I can envision a scenario where Obama energizes the base, brings in lots of young first-time voters who vote a straight Dem ticket, bringing in a supermajority in the Senate and a huge House majority--Obama would have no need to compromise and the first hundred days would be like FDR revisited, c. even if Hillary wins, Republicans in Congress will be united in their opposition from day one with the support of much of America, therefore they could block much legislation. Obama, though, would be tougher because people would want him to be given a chance and Republicans couldn't automatically attack him or his policies. And my third reason is that I am preparing to print up t-shirts that say "Don't Blame Me--I voted against Obama twice!" available for sale when the economy tanks, Iraq descends into civil war, jurists to the left of Ginsburg are nominated to the Supreme Court, etc, etc. Jim,
I voted in Arlington today… for Hillary. I have three reasons:
1. I want the Dem primary to last as long as possible, so they run down their campaign chests and attack one another so Repubs don’t have to. Obama has the momentum so if Hillary took Virginia (the most likely of the three), it would ensure a long, bloody primary.
2. I think Hillary would be better in the general election for three reasons: a. She would be easier to beat because of her high negatives and Obama changes the game (as seen by the wrong polls), b. She would have shorter coattails (I can envision a scenario where Obama energizes the base, brings in lots of young first-time voters who vote a straight Dem ticket, bringing in a supermajority in the Senate and a huge House majority–Obama would have no need to compromise and the first hundred days would be like FDR revisited, c. even if Hillary wins, Republicans in Congress will be united in their opposition from day one with the support of much of America, therefore they could block much legislation. Obama, though, would be tougher because people would want him to be given a chance and Republicans couldn’t automatically attack him or his policies.
And my third reason is that I am preparing to print up t-shirts that say “Don’t Blame Me–I voted against Obama twice!” available for sale when the economy tanks, Iraq descends into civil war, jurists to the left of Ginsburg are nominated to the Supreme Court, etc, etc.

]]> By: Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » Settling? You Bet. http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-362410 Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » Settling? You Bet. Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:45:26 +0000 http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-362410 [...] Geraghty talks about his choice in the Virginia primary: If somebody out there is saying, “Jim, you’re settling,” I respond, “Well, yeah. Welcome [...] […] Geraghty talks about his choice in the Virginia primary: If somebody out there is saying, “Jim, you’re settling,” I respond, “Well, yeah. Welcome […]

]]> By: Frank Brown http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-361795 Frank Brown Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:23:47 +0000 http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-361795 Jim....how about a piece on why "deadender" conservatives wouldn't vote for Reagan necause he wouldn.t pass the litmus test they are now demanding of McCain...can you imagine McCain not only supporting but doing tv commercials for the Brady Bill or supporting and signing a very liberal abortion bill as Reagan did while Gov. not to mention his tax imcreases. Reagan signed a amnesty bill and called it that....eyc. etc. Jim….how about a piece on why “deadender” conservatives wouldn’t vote for Reagan necause he wouldn.t pass the litmus test they are now demanding of McCain…can you imagine McCain not only supporting but doing tv commercials for the Brady Bill or supporting and signing a very liberal abortion bill as Reagan did while Gov. not to mention his tax imcreases. Reagan signed a amnesty bill and called it that….eyc. etc.

]]> By: Mark http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-361776 Mark Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:08:02 +0000 http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-361776 I agree about not messing with another party's primary just to be a spoiler. Doing this would also help Huckabee... and the thought of Huckabee taking VA makes me want to vomit. I agree about not messing with another party’s primary just to be a spoiler. Doing this would also help Huckabee… and the thought of Huckabee taking VA makes me want to vomit.

]]> By: svf http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-361754 svf Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:50:24 +0000 http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-361754 didn't even give Ron Paul a thought, eh...? didn’t even give Ron Paul a thought, eh…?

]]> By: Old Atlantic http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-361729 Old Atlantic Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:22:03 +0000 http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-361729 I voted for Mike Huckabee in Virginia. Not much line around 11:30 AM in Northern Virginia where I voted. To get a red sticker for Republican you had to go to one person who had them. I started with Tom Tancredo went to Fred when Tom left and then Romney and now Mike. I will vote 3rd party in November, as I often do. McCain would have to take the NumbersUSA pledge on no amnesty and agree to end chain migration and stop all H-1B's and immigration from terrorist nations to get my support. I also don't support letting Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and UAE off for funding terrorism. We would have been better off keeping the Clinton sanctions on Pakistan and stopping all immigration after 9-11 and doing nothing else compared with Bush. I voted for Mike Huckabee in Virginia. Not much line around 11:30 AM in Northern Virginia where I voted. To get a red sticker for Republican you had to go to one person who had them.

I started with Tom Tancredo went to Fred when Tom left and then Romney and now Mike. I will vote 3rd party in November, as I often do. McCain would have to take the NumbersUSA pledge on no amnesty and agree to end chain migration and stop all H-1B’s and immigration from terrorist nations to get my support.

I also don’t support letting Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and UAE off for funding terrorism. We would have been better off keeping the Clinton sanctions on Pakistan and stopping all immigration after 9-11 and doing nothing else compared with Bush.

]]> By: John Rich http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-361655 John Rich Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:29:31 +0000 http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-361655 Jim, you wrote "I don’t mess in the other guy’s primaries, I don’t want him to mess in mine." Normally, I'd agree with you. But today's primary is different here in Virginia. I'm happy to mess with the Dems. My wife and I, both McCain supporters (from way before we had to "settle"), voted for Hillary. We also strongly recommended to our friends to do the same. Why? Damage control. If, may God forbid, the Dems win in November, better to have a liberal crook (Hillary) than a liberal fool (Obama). We are at war. This is no time for OJT, and while we'd infinitely prefer John McCain to Hillary Clinton, our sense is that Obama would be a disaster waiting to happen. Current polling shows Obama with an increasing lead over McCain, and while we may hope some of that is the Bradley effect, it's always better to do something than just sit around and hope. Jim, you wrote “I don’t mess in the other guy’s primaries, I don’t want him to mess in mine.” Normally, I’d agree with you. But today’s primary is different here in Virginia. I’m happy to mess with the Dems.

My wife and I, both McCain supporters (from way before we had to “settle”), voted for Hillary. We also strongly recommended to our friends to do the same.

Why? Damage control. If, may God forbid, the Dems win in November, better to have a liberal crook (Hillary) than a liberal fool (Obama).

We are at war. This is no time for OJT, and while we’d infinitely prefer John McCain to Hillary Clinton, our sense is that Obama would be a disaster waiting to happen.

Current polling shows Obama with an increasing lead over McCain, and while we may hope some of that is the Bradley effect, it’s always better to do something than just sit around and hope.

]]> By: Frank Mueller http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-361650 Frank Mueller Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:27:55 +0000 http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-361650 How sad. Jim is voting for a Democrat in Republican clothing. How could any conservative vote for a candidate who wants to close Gitmo, sign up for Global Warming legislation and thinks an Alito type cannot be nominated for the Supreme Court??? Please, as most conservatives I am staying home in November. How sad. Jim is voting for a Democrat in Republican clothing. How could any conservative vote for a candidate who wants to close Gitmo, sign up for Global Warming legislation and thinks an Alito type cannot be nominated for the Supreme Court??? Please, as most conservatives I am staying home in November.

]]> By: steveegg http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-361649 steveegg Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:26:54 +0000 http://ontapblog.com/2008/02/12/who-i-voted-for-in-the-virginia-primary/#comment-361649 I don't have the ambiguity about meddling on the 'Rat end of things; after all, one can argue (and indeed, I do argue) that they selected the Pubbie nominee. Besides, I am not convinced that McCain learned the lesson of the Miers fiasco. I see him replacing essentially like with like, and given that, other than Scalia, the Justices most likely to retire in the next Presidential term are the liberals. I don’t have the ambiguity about meddling on the ‘Rat end of things; after all, one can argue (and indeed, I do argue) that they selected the Pubbie nominee.

Besides, I am not convinced that McCain learned the lesson of the Miers fiasco. I see him replacing essentially like with like, and given that, other than Scalia, the Justices most likely to retire in the next Presidential term are the liberals.

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